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If someone could help me out here.. I have a 91 NX2k and wanted to do an exhaust intake and turbo!!, but I need to know what kind of system/kit I need to turbo it up, i was told I can't turbo a sr20de cost effectivley, I was told I need to start with a DET instead. I need someone to straighten me out, if anyone can help me out map out or link me to someone who did one that would help me so much!!
Let me add to Chriscars fine advice, cause I'm such a helpful bastard.
The very first thing you need to do, is acquire your own education. Then provide a whole lot more details before you post anymore questions of any sort.
Read the thread posted by Chriscar, all the threads, twice.
Next, go buy a book by Corky Bell called "Maximum Boost." Read it. Twice.
What is your budget? Access to tools and a lift? Is this a DD, what is your status for "down time" with the car? Do you have a back-up vehicle? Friends with turbo-knowledge who are willing to help? Are you paying someone for this work?
A couple other threads you should read, they will answer 98% of the rest of your questions:
There ya' go. That should keep you busy for while working on your knowledge level. Knowledge is power my new friend.
Now, leave that damn "Thread Starter" button alone, you currently don't know enough to ask intelligent questions. Forget that thing exists for a while, and use the "SEARCH Button" instead, it is far more helpful than a dozen threads with newbarific and unreSearched questions. Read, read some more, search, search some more. The information is already there, you just need to access it.
Welcome to the forum!
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'93 Classic - R.I.P. 2007 My mechanical companion. Operation Resuscitation underway....
it is VERY cost effective to turbo a DE lol. a DET..is nice, but if you want to keep with a SR20DE then i'd say go for that. here's a list that was started on my thread of stuff u'd need to turbo the DE
1) BOV of some type (I like Greddy Type S) $100
2) Z32 MAF from me $100
3) Calum burnable chip ECU or JWT (I personally adore Calum so I'm biased) $500
4) Intercooler adequate enough for your power goals $300
5) 370cc fuel injectors @ 4 bar fuel pressure (I have connections for these) part of $580
6) feed lines (some turbos require both oil and water, some just oil) part of $580
7) restrictors per that link you provided $15
8) Drill bits for oil drain $10
9) Tap for oil drain $10
10) fitting for oil drain $10
11) Gauges (typically oil pressure, boost and AEM Uego wideband) boost $60
12) Turbo (T28 is great, if not go with a GT28RS from www.cheapturbo.com) part of $580
13) GTi-R Manifold with J-Pipe part of $580
14) I/C piping kit or custom made piping $100
15) Nismo adjustable FPR (Get this from Greg Vogel at G-Spec) $120
16) Extra vacuum lines $25
17) Clutch to handle power output (I personally like ACT) $300
18) Lightened Flywheel (Fidanza) www.gofastdepot.com $300
19) Red RTV to re-seal oil pans after drilling $5
20) oil pressure sending unit $50
21) rest of oil restrictor $35
22) JWT S4 cams $560
25) malboro 255 fuel pump $80
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Old set-up: 91 se-r sr20de+T 13.04@110mph w/ a t25....
New set-up: 91 se-r gti-r sr20det w/ a gt28r. New times when I can get that damn thing running!!!!
it is VERY cost effective to turbo a DE lol. a DET..is nice, but if you want to keep with a SR20DE then i'd say go for that. here's a list that was started on my thread of stuff u'd need to turbo the DE
1) BOV of some type (I like Greddy Type S) $100
2) Z32 MAF from me $100
3) Calum burnable chip ECU or JWT (I personally adore Calum so I'm biased) $500
4) Intercooler adequate enough for your power goals $300
5) 370cc fuel injectors @ 4 bar fuel pressure (I have connections for these) part of $580
6) feed lines (some turbos require both oil and water, some just oil) part of $580
7) restrictors per that link you provided $15
8) Drill bits for oil drain $10
9) Tap for oil drain $10
10) fitting for oil drain $10
11) Gauges (typically oil pressure, boost and AEM Uego wideband) boost $60
12) Turbo (T28 is great, if not go with a GT28RS from www.cheapturbo.com) part of $580
13) GTi-R Manifold with J-Pipe part of $580
14) I/C piping kit or custom made piping $100
15) Nismo adjustable FPR (Get this from Greg Vogel at G-Spec) $120
16) Extra vacuum lines $25
17) Clutch to handle power output (I personally like ACT) $300
18) Lightened Flywheel (Fidanza) www.gofastdepot.com $300
19) Red RTV to re-seal oil pans after drilling $5
20) oil pressure sending unit $50
21) rest of oil restrictor $35
22) JWT S4 cams $560
25) malboro 255 fuel pump $80
that's most of it. =] hope that helps bro
2, 18, and 22 are not necessary. You can use stock.
Turboing the DE is very cost effective, but take into consideration the mileage on your motor. Do a compression check on the current motor.
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Definitely do a compression check, but if it checks out fine turbo away. I turboed mine with 170,000 miles and am running 10psi daily with no problems. Now I don't beat on it, but do go to the track once every two months sometimes more.
There are also others that have turboed their's with 200,000+. Just be smart and check oil and plugs often.
oh yea, 2, 18 & 22 are not necessary. and u can also use a smaller fuel pump but i'd recommend getting a 255 just incase u do more.
but, with the flywheel i'd recommend replacing it since your already going to have the clutch out, no it's not needed..just nice to have
i'd also recommend the Z32 MAF or an upgraded MAF, but, again not needed.
either is the cams..sorry i *** pulled my list of stuff up & posted it haha. forgot i added/upgraded some items
& the restrictors talked about in there, are these:
Really ?? A lightened FW is recommended with a turbo application ?
I've read a few times on here over the years that it isn't because of how fast the rpms shoot, will never get any traction. hhmm i guess the jury's still out on that one. Thats the whole reason i havent gotten a Fidanza ( IMO prolly one of the best mods to get ) .
It'll slide like a cat on ice with no nails....LOL
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94 Sentra SE-R, 10:1 Red Top SR20DE, ! 15.652 @ 87.34 mph....***Dead***
Really ?? A lightened FW is recommended with a turbo application ?
I've read a few times on here over the years that it isn't because of how fast the rpms shoot, will never get any traction. hhmm i guess the jury's still out on that one. Thats the whole reason i havent gotten a Fidanza ( IMO prolly one of the best mods to get ) .
It'll slide like a cat on ice with no nails....LOL
Lightened flywheels are good for all cars, except diesels, just not as light on a F/I as N/A. The trick with less rotating mass is to learn to modulate the throttle better, more gently. You cant just rev and drop off the tree, you gotta feather it, and control your right foot with more precision while exiting a corner.
Anyway, the only thing you really need for a bolt on turbo, if cheap is the route you wanna take, is a TMIC/SMIC/FMIC, manifold, t25, injectors, ecu or piggy back and dp to existing exhaust. Should be easy for less then 1500. My buddy has a t25 he will sell you for like $100, stock mani's are easy to find as well as stock dp'd from people that upgraded as well as injectors, the most expensive part is the ecu from JWT/CALUM maybe enthalpy (Im not sure if they do FWD) or piggy back
inj 100
tmic 100
t25 100
mani 100
ecu 500
dp/O2 housing 60
tmic piping should come with tmic from whoever you det it from.
its all used and may not last to long, but it will be CHEAP
Or just get a bb or avenir for 1500 and learn how to swap the motor, easy and tons of info on the net, easy to get the FSM too.
You need a fledel adapter, some muffler bearings, and some headlight fluid.
Oh yeah, lets not forget your bicycle tires.
Seriously, everyone that has already posted pretty much has it down right. Lets not forget though, that you're going to need a flexible budget, for things that you will likely forget, or break in the process.
yea haha. tekkie just went through all this with me =]
i forgot all the clamps & everything i was going to need too. here's how i always do my projects:
take what u think it's gonna cost, double it, and that's probably around what your going to end up spending LOL.
Thanks to everyone who got back to me, all help is appreciated, could do without all the slamming and sarcasm ***.. Shawn B
Let's think about this a second. If you read all the cool stuff that is in the NEW MEMBERS AREA there is lots of advice about researching before posting redundant and redundant and redundant....sorry I sound like a totally new guy saying the same thing over again. I asked a couple stupid questions when I first got on here and got jacked a bit but that was cause I DIDN'T READ THE NEW MEMBERS AREA VERY WELL FIRST!
If you don't want to get slammed by people READ THE NEW MEMBERS AREA FIRST. I hope that has been said enough now. There is TONS and I mean TONS of info on here and if you just search you will learn to ask better questions. By including the things in your question that are pertinent to the question such as budget, goal and other things like Shawn mentioned the people that you are asking will be better able to assist you. By reading the info in the results from you SEARCHES you may be able to comprise a very smart and important list of questions to ask. I have spent the last couple of months reading everything I can about my car and motor and other cars and motors mentioned on here so that I may better my knowledge of the community with which I choose to be a part of. Do that yourself and I can assure you that there will be less slamming and more assistance. Besides, if you think that was slamming...piss Shawn off and I think it could get much worse. He's pretty blunt and doesn't really seem like the beat around the bush kinda guy.
So to sum it up.
1. Read
2. Read
3. Read
4. Think first and then read again before asking what has already been asked.
Thanks to everyone who got back to me, all help is appreciated, could do without all the slamming and sarcasm ***.. Shawn B
I could do without the same unresearched questions over and over and over. Click the button that says "rules", give those a read. I can quote them if you'd like.
Here's basically your same damn question from the same damn day. Just a different newb in a different section. I copied, pasted and slightly modified my response. No kidding. Yet another redundant thread for folks to SEARCH through and filter when they are following the Forum Rules.
That newb took my same advice with a grain of salt, humor, and thanks. What a concept.
I could do without ungrateful bastards when I post some damn helpful information. Following the links I provided will lead you to far more information than anyone could have ever posted in this thread. Plus those threads would teach you how to find your own information, quickly, easily, efficiently and drama free. That is the most helpful thing you could possibly learn.
You've been here since June of 2006, you've posted seventeen (17) times. When exactly were you planning on reading the Forum Rules, finding the Search button, and clicking on The Technical Library?
My initial post was me being very nice, patient, and helpful. Note the " " at the beginning when I used self-effacing humor. Note the " " when I welcomed you to the forum at the end. I never used any " " smilies did I? I never got personal and called you nasty names did I?
I'm still actually trying to remain reasonably nice, this may be a first for me. I'm not at all sure I like it.
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If you read all the cool stuff that is in the NEW MEMBERS AREA there is lots of advice about researching before posting redundant and redundant and redundant....sorry I sound like a totally new guy saying the same thing over again. I asked a couple stupid questions when I first got on here and got jacked a bit but that was cause I DIDN'T READ THE NEW MEMBERS AREA VERY WELL FIRST!
Right on.
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Originally Posted by GollumSi
There is TONS and I mean TONS of info on here and if you just search you will learn to ask better questions. By including the things in your question that are pertinent to the question such as budget, goal and other things like Shawn mentioned the people that you are asking will be better able to assist you. By reading the info in the results from you SEARCHES you may be able to comprise a very smart and important list of questions to ask.
Bada-fu*king-bing.
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Besides, if you think that was slamming...piss Shawn off and I think it could get much worse. He's pretty blunt and doesn't really seem like the beat around the bush kinda guy.
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Me? I'm just a big pussycat. Friendly, lovable, laid-back, if a bit shy and occassionally stoic.
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Originally Posted by GollumSi
So to sum it up.
1. Read
2. Read
3. Read
4. Think first and then read again before asking what has already been asked.
A most excellent summation. You sir, are a scholar, a gentlemen and a fine boon to our outanding Forum.
" smilies did I? I never got personal and called you nasty names did I?
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