<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Soopastank:
Him: " We don't give out that information...They're gonna be higher than any other company out there because its a dual spring setup!
What a moron. You guys have to understand something: companies like Weapon R are Rice companies. They are not run by, led by, or marketed towards, real enthusiats. They are geared towards people who want fast cars, but don't really understand all the technology that goes into making a good fast car.
I have come to a couple of conclusions based on my experience with the aftermarket:
1) Most of the aftermarket has horrible customer service.
2) Most people running aftermarket companies don't really understand the products that they are producing/selling
3) Most of the time, a product that way undercuts the competition on price is a piece of ****.
I hear people all the time getting on me, Mike Kojima, and others about how we want to stiffle innovation in the SE-R community, about how we are opionated hard-headed dicks who don't want to see new products developed for our cars. That is complete bullshit.
Please don't think I'm being elitest for what I'm going to say, but here's reality: you have to honestly, objectively, and seriously evaluate your capability to understand the things that go on your car. Do you understand how a header works? I mean, really understand, as in could you pull out the equations that define the ideal runner size for a header? Do you know enough about welding and metalurgy to tell if header X is made well or not? Do you know enough about suspension design to know what size sway bars will work well on your car? Do you know enough to say what kind of spring rates you need, for sure? Can you spec dampers?
If you do not have this kind of knowledge, don't expect some aftermarket dude to educate you. Most likely, he will just rip you off and sell you a piece of ****. Leave being "innovative" to people who have the knowledge and experience to do it right. Instead of asking the guy at Weapon R what kind of spring rates you should run, ask somebody like Me, Mike K, Grover, Kyle, Sheening, etc.... guys who all have significant levels of experience setting up and driving cars on race tracks. Better yet, just do what we do.
I'm not saying this to stiffle innovation. Rather, it's because we have usually done a lot of hard work to figure out what works. Why try to reproduce what works when you don't have the experience base to do so? It doesn't make any sense.
When it comes to suspension stuff, I personally believe that there are only 4 real choices: Ground Controls with KYB AGX's/GAB's (do not lower car more than 3/4"!), Motivational, Truechoice, and ShockTeck.
If you want to run something other than this, ask yourself the following questions: 1) "Do I have the knowledge to spec out a suspension that is as good or better than the above?" 2) "Does the company that I am working with have a proven history with suspension design" (this pretty much exclusively means: have they won mutliple road racing championships at the National or International level)?
If the answer to either of the questions is "no", then don't try to be innovative and come up with a new product. Just run the **** that's already been figured out and proven.
I'm not saying this to be a dick, or to stroke my own ego. I'm saying this to try and save you guys some heartache and money.