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PLANNING TO GO 17 DEGREES TO HIGHER POWER AND THROTTLE RESPONSE.

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With the stock cams and 17 deg. you can use 87 octane. You could probably tow a jet ski with the air conditionier on going uphill before you started to have any knock. That kind of stuff is factored into the factory settings, which is 15+/-2 with 87 octane
 

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Actualy the stock setting is 13 +-2 so 15 is the high side of stock. 17 you will need premium. If not you are taking your engine's life in your own hands. You could probaly get away with not having the premium in when you up the timing. I would probaly grab some octane boost and/or drive real easy and i mean EASY till you ran the gas out enough to put in some higher octane.
 

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Do you guys think my car would detonate with timing at 19 w/ 92 octane here in arizona? It's starting to get hot now, sooner or later it'll be in the 100's. Should I just leave it at 17?
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Actualy the stock setting is 13 +-2 so 15 is the high side of stock.</font>
I could be wrong, but I believe I saw in my FSM that the default setting is 15 +-2 not 13. I will check my FSM when I get home.

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Yes 15 my bad...i think...

But again its in your own hands to run 17 and 87 octane. you can be detonating and never even know it... then a hole in the piston. 17 and the expensive gas and you are pefectly fine. i chose 15 because i run mid grade, always have and always will. or atleast its at 15 to eric's eyes.
 
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HEY FELLAS!!!

So is there a big gain or what?
What about torque?
Im going to do this this weekend.

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Well, just had my timing set to 17 yesterday. I must say that I definitely feel a difference. I would recommend it. You don't need to get the high octane stuff. I think that 89 octane will suffice. But, if you really want to be safe, you can go with the 93. All you're really trying to prevent is knocking and misfiring. It won't happen most likely.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Monsoon:
well then, i'm not upping my timing any time soon, lol. gas is going to be $2/gallon here for the crappy gas (what i use), i can't afford that let alone premium.


i'll just wait on timing, got a header, cai, cams, etc. still to buy anyways.


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LOL, this is funny ****. I love to hear you people bitch about gas. You can spend thousands on mods for your car, but you bitch about spending close to 2 bucks on a gallon of gas



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Spend thousands on my car????? nope got it cheap and doesnt have thousands in mods. Not everyone has to have every little thing.

The difference in 15 to 17 is a couple hp... they say free 2 but not really since you get hit in the pocket every time you fill up. 17 to 19 is just throttle responce on most cars.... past 19 and you are just trying to say you have every last hp out of you car(mag/riceboy racing numbers)
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Monsoon:
well then, i'm not upping my timing any time soon, lol. gas is going to be $2/gallon here for the crappy gas (what i use), i can't afford that let alone premium.
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Think yourselves lucky. Thanks to the British governments well known hate of the motorist, we pay about £3.70 per gallon, which is about $5.70!!!
 
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