yes. i found the experience rather disappointing. eight cylinders, jet fighter cockpit, electric-adjusting everything, black leather all around, huge tires. guess what?: I wouldn't trade my SE-R for any of that. the sound and feel of the eager, responsive, CAI-and-header-equipped sr20, there's nothing like it. jabbing the gas in the 840, i found myself waiting for the back-punching torque, and waiting, and waiting; i had to check the tach and speedo twice for signs of life.driving through some Maryland backroads i experienced the vaunted German engineering, but i found myself wishing for the light, telepathic handling of my classic.and ride quality:the BMW was way harsher. so the point of all this:you classic owners have a rare, secret, gem of a car.