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I asked this question in the Classic forum already, but haven't gotten any response.

How much hp at the wheels do you get with the standard non turbo, stock cam JWT ECU upgrade? Mods I have are header, exhaust, JWT POP, and underdrive pullies.

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I'd say anywheres to 3-4HP gain. The best thing about that ECU is watching your RPM go to about 7800...Then on the road watching it take you to about 140+, well at least thats what I have seen so far. Anybody else take their cars to the limit with the ECU??

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MaddMatt:
I asked this question in the Classic forum already, but haven't gotten any response.

How much hp at the wheels do you get with the standard non turbo, stock cam JWT ECU upgrade? Mods I have are header, exhaust, JWT POP, and underdrive pullies.

Thanks,

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Here's a link to Rob Cadle's back-to-back dyno chart of the stock ECU vs. the JWT ECU. He had the same mods you do at the time this dyno was taken (except you have a POP, and he has a CAI.) Check it out.

http://www.se-r.net/engine/jwt_ecu/index.html

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[This message has been edited by RollcageSR20 (edited 04-11-2001).]
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MaddMatt:
So the consensus is 3-5 hp. Looks like Rob got ~5.5 at the wheels. For $595 that's a lot of money for few horses. Is it really worth it?

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The 5 Hp isnt the only thing you gain though. ANd look at it this way, if you want an ECU, JW is the only one, so you are kinda forced to get it.

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I would give my left testicle for a JWT ECU on my 98 SE-R.
Eventually I am going to buckle and do the retrofit that Andrew and others are doing.

I was so pissed of seeing all the lame ass drivers passing me on the straights of Big Willow because of the lamo rev limiter and speed limiter that I kept hitting. These guys with teutonic and high powered JDM cars were embarassed on the twisties by the SE-R. I would have killed them in the straights if it was not for my stock ECU. I swear that the next time I am at Big Willow it will be with a JWT ECU.

The HP increase is not the issue. Removing the limiters on my car is. The 200SX especially benefits from the JWT ECU.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NoVTECSER:
Hell, look at my car. I LOST 7hp with the ECU. I think its something else going on, and I'm looking into it now. </font>
Did you bring back your timing from 18 degrees to 15. With the stock ECU and stock cams you run higher timing. With the JWT ECU you bring down your timing to 15. Maybe that is the reason you lost power. what type of gas are you using? You must use 92 Octane with the JWT ECU.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mel E Bog:
IIRC Jun and UPRD also do ECU tuning. UPRD did the ECU's for the cam shootout in SCC in last June's issue.

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And how much would a JUN cost?! You didnt think to check that out did you. And it is no better than JWT.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Did you bring back your timing from 18 degrees to 15. With the stock ECU and stock cams you run higher timing. With the JWT ECU you bring down your timing to 15. Maybe that is the reason you lost power. what type of gas are you using? You must use 92 Octane with the JWT ECU.</font>
13, 15, 17 deg...its doesn't ,matter. No power gain anywhere. All I have ever run in my car has been 92 octane. I have the S3/S4 program, but no cams. I think that is the problem. This will be taken care of at the convention though.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NoVTECSER:
13, 15, 17 deg...its doesn't ,matter. No power gain anywhere. All I have ever run in my car has been 92 octane. I have the S3/S4 program, but no cams. I think that is the problem. This will be taken care of at the convention though.</font>
Heh, wanna trade? I have the "regular" ECU, but I have the S4 cams...
 

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So the consensus is 3-5 hp. Looks like Rob got ~5.5 at the wheels. For $595 that's a lot of money for few horses. Is it really worth it?

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look at the timeslip table in se-r.net: there are SE-Racers who have broken into the 14's w/ the ECU and w/ stock cams.
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by RPWSER:
And how much would a JUN cost?! You didnt think to check that out did you. And it is no better than JWT.

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Never said it was better. Just wanted to let people know there are (supposed) alternatives to JWT.
 
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