intercooler question

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nissanoholic

Discussion Starter · Feb 4, 2004

hey, has anyone ever thought of doing this--taking ur battery out and trunk mounting it, then putting a pulsar gtir ic in place of it laying it down flat, between the drive side headlight and the strut tower.-close to the hood line, (of course u have to cut and turn around one of the end tanks) but i believe if u did this that u would have super short intercooler pipes, about 5 inches from the ic to the throttle plate and about 9 inches from the ic to the comp inlet---i think i want to try this and suggestions would be helpful---the reason i want to do this is for the sleeper look and foe my performance radiator to get maximum cooling (think of the signal auto drift cars but over where our battery goes. lol) also i want to eventualy put either a water sprayer on top or an ic nos spraybar--also, i will be enlarging my ambient air tube opening quite a bit--what to u think.

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Serban

· #2 · Feb 4, 2004

I knew a guy with a turbo Accord that did that, and put a hood scoop on the side where the IC was. It will work, maybe you will have less lag since the air doesnt travel so much, but its more efficient to have it up front.

nissanoholic

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 4, 2004

yeah, thats what i was trying for, less lag and more sleeper and better radiator cooling.

Fast91SER said:
I knew a guy with a turbo Accord that did that, and put a hood scoop on the side where the IC was. It will work, maybe you will have less lag since the air doesnt travel so much, but its more efficient to have it up front.

spdracerUT

· #4 · Feb 4, 2004

One of the first turbo SE-Rs, the one done by Turbo Mag. mounted the intercooler right behind the left headlight. But I don't think you'll get enough air flow that way to be that efficient. I think it'd be better to go to an air-water intercooler setup. Though this will still heat up the air going to the radiator as you'll have the radiator for the IC setup in front of it.

Serban

· #5 · Feb 4, 2004

nissanoholic said:
yeah, thats what i was trying for, less lag and more sleeper and better radiator cooling.

You really dont have to worry about the radiator not getting enough cooling. I've never had a problem with overheating on the SE-R or the NX. But yeah, sleeper is always cool

nissanoholic

Discussion Starter · #6 · Feb 4, 2004

see, i think i'll get enough air, because i'm going to remove that little rubber seal we have on the edge of our hood over the headlight and, maybe try to box in the top of the intercooler somehow-so that i can force the air under the hood and through the intercooler and through the ambient air tube. Also if i can lower under hood temps by seperating the ic with some kind of air box-i think i'll benefit greatly from a water sprayer or a nos spraybar. I dont want to cut a hole in the hood, cuz of the sleeper look, i'm going viper hunting! also, has anyone ever actually beat a viper on the street?

Fast91SER said:
You really dont have to worry about the radiator not getting enough cooling. I've never had a problem with overheating on the SE-R or the NX. But yeah, sleeper is always cool

spdracerUT

· #7 · Feb 4, 2004

Eh..... think of it this way. With a front mount, say you have a 6" by 24" intercooler which would be 144 in^2 of area, or 1 ft^2. Do you think you can get that much area worth of air to flow through your intercooler through that little gap between the hood and headlight? If anything, use an air duct tube to go from the front of the car to the hole over by the left fender. On the b14, you can remove the foglight and get airflow. I dunno about the B13 front bumper. But even if you used a 6" diameter duct, that's only an area of 28.2 in^2. Granted some people run the top mount without a scoop and your setup would be better, but it still wouldn't compare to a front mount or air/water setup. That's my guess at least!

As for beating a Viper, new one traps right at 120mph in the 1/4. You better be making at least 350whp if you want to just stay even.

JDMtyteYO

· #8 · Feb 4, 2004

Yeah for viper beating power, the intercooler placed behind the headlight wouldnt be efficient enough. I think the biggest reason they took it off of the Turbo car was because they couldnt boost as much as they wanted to without getting detenation....

Nitelife

· #9 · Feb 4, 2004

I actually saw a set-up like you described on ebay a few months ago. The guy had two DSM (Talon, Eclipse, Laser) SMIC welded together and they fit in the cavity left behind when the battery was relocated.

Like the others who have replied before, it seems like this would be a middle ground between FMIC and TMIC.

nissanoholic

Discussion Starter · #10 · Feb 4, 2004

intercooler

thanks for the feedback guys, all very intresting angles--i wish i could stick with a viper. lol--the new ones are just sick.--i think i'm going to try this out, and get pics it will probably go together later this month--i think around town on 6psi it should be fine, at the races i want to use a spray bar, to cool the charge more and turn up the boost, probably shoot a little wet nitrous on race gas, i have to have the sleeper look! cant live without it, i just want my car to look really stock and i'm willing to go to great lengths to do this.

Nitelife said:
I actually saw a set-up like you described on ebay a few months ago. The guy had two DSM (Talon, Eclipse, Laser) SMIC welded together and they fit in the cavity left behind when the battery was relocated.

Like the others who have replied before, it seems like this would be a middle ground between FMIC and TMIC.

blairellis

· #11 · Feb 4, 2004

i wouldnt take that little rubber strip out from under the hood. its used to seal the top of the radiator and not let air go VOER the TOP of it.

also jimmy's old car could kill a viper im sure.

91DE+T

· #12 · Feb 4, 2004 (Edited)

Here is my setup. I got the idea from an issue of Super Street where they had a 500hp Track Attack Integra (RSX) with a similar set up, only much bigger. I had many problems with my front mount pipes hitting the wheels on tight turns and decided if it worked well enough for a track monster it would be good enough for my 10psi aspirations. I figure it has the short lag benifets of a top mount but not the heat soak issues. The intercooler is from an Audi S4, and the hood scoop is from a 1988 300zx. I need to relocate the intake filter, it is right below the intercooler, and build a box to force the air through the intercooler, but that can wait for warmer weather.

http://www.prmsg.org/modules.php?se...ame=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

edit- link seems to work now

cnynracer1

· #13 · Feb 4, 2004

none of you guys could kill a Viper from a stoplight unless you had big sticky slicks and either A) a fully built motor, or B) plenty of C16 in the tank.

JDM_2ner

· #14 · Feb 4, 2004

On the highway is a different story.

iNGEN

· #15 · Feb 4, 2004

I highly recommend you consider these:
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/pwr.html

Though more costly, much more effecient alternative. And will keep that sleeper look. Just mount the radiator(s) down in front of the engine radiator.

Justin

· #16 · Feb 4, 2004

iNGEN said:
I highly recommend you consider these:
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/pwr.html

Though more costly, much more effecient alternative. And will keep that sleeper look. Just mount the radiator(s) down in front of the engine radiator.

Im doing an A/W intercooler setup. I will have an extra switch wired so that when I turn my car off and park, to say run in a store or get gas, the water pump keeps going,as well as a pusher fan over the heat exhanger, so that it wont heat soak badly. Plus, when I go to the track with some C16, I can put ice or dry ice in the tank

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PSSSHHHGOESMYSR20

· #17 · Feb 4, 2004

Like this?

They did that a long time ago seen here in this article. Personally Id rather mount it in front of the tire. But I hate small intercoolers as they tend to get heat soaked rather quickly.

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nissanoholic

Discussion Starter · #18 · Feb 4, 2004

ic

see, i want to mount it like that but, instead of having at a 45 degree angle-i want to have it laying down flat, and if everyone remembers the gtir is much bigger, i have this problem with cops. lol--thas why my gauges are in my glove box.

PSSSHHHGOESMYSR20 said:
Like this?

They did that a long time ago seen here in this article. Personally Id rather mount it in front of the tire. But I hate small intercoolers as they tend to get heat soaked rather quickly.

Click Here

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