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Just wanted to show gratitude for JACEN99SE for pointing me in the right direction for a new muffler! He showed me that a DynoMax # 17287 would work for my 97 SE-R. I knew to use DynoMax, but I couldn't really figure out which number would be best!

I had the muffler installed today, and I am incredibly pleased! For reference, I used to have a 3 chambered Flowmaster


THANK YOU! YOU = BADASS MOFO!

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DynoMax Muffler # 17287
Some other way too expensive Momo crap.
 
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Sorry, I don't have the equipment to scan pics or even server space to post.

Yes, I do like it. I can't tell if it actually runs better, but it does "feel" better. With all of that loudness gone, the ride seems smoother, nicer.

All together I would have to say it made my ride more "classy".

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jacen99SE:
Hey thanks.
Can you post some pictures? I'd like to see the piping over the axle and before the muffler, plus some shots of the muffler.

So you like it better? Chambered mufflers suck.
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Hey Johnny G.B. can you give me some details about your muffler. Such as: what style tip does it have and would it work for a '91? and how much did it cost you? My Stillen is falling apart on me and I need a new one very soon.

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The DynoMax # is 17287. This link will show you the exact specs:

http://www.dynomax.com/documents/ultrafloss_specs.pdf

I also used a 2 1/4 inlet; 3 inch all stainless (single exit)DynoMax tip.

The tip was $50 and the muffler was about $150. If you need more details on where to order, I bought everything in Houston but I still probably find the link to the website.....

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DynoMax Muffler # 17287
Some other way too expensive Momo crap.

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i'm thinking about getting a dynomax muffler. how does it sound greenback? i have no idea where to start looking. i'm mostly looking for something with a good sound i guess.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Sorry, I don't have the equipment to scan pics or even server space to post.</font>
You are still using the stock b-pipe, right? What kind of modifications did it take to connect it to the new muffler? How much was it bent/cut?

I want to do the same thing with a courtesy b-pipe and a 2.5" 20" muffler (17289).
 

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the muffler looks kind of like the flowmaster, honestly, i think $150, plus the tip, $50, is too much for a muffler.
you can get all stainless steel straight through mufflers with a tip on it for around $120. I have a 3A Racing muffler, i paid $110 for it. here are some links to pics of the muffler:
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/3a1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/3a2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/3a3.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/3a4.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/muffler1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/muffler2.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/serban91r/muffler3.jpg

ok, i hope thats enough viewing material for everyone. and one more note, if the picture doesnt load up, just hit reload, geocities is weird like that.

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Sorry, I should have clarified. I tossed the stock B-Pipe many moons ago in favor of a 2 1/4 crush bent replacement. It was angled way up over the back "axle". Now it is a little more lower and straight.

Yes it does look a little like a Flowmaster, but my Flowmaster was not that shiney stainless. The DynoMax has an oval shaped can and is that "purty" stainless all over.

The price isn't that high. This DynoMax has a can length of 20 inches and and over all length of 25 inches. That is a pretty big muffler. Not to mention the tip is actual brushed stainless, not chrome plated crap.

IMHO, you won't find a muffler for this low that sounds this good. After intial idle up, I can barely hear it outside the car. When driving, I can hear my intake over the exhaust. From what I've learning so far is that the longer the can is, the quiter the exhaust.

For those of you who don't know, the muffler is straight through.

Most of the mufflers I've seen that already come with a tip, has some sort of huge ass tip or a style I don't care for. As far as the tip goes, 50 bucks is a lot of money! But I figured that this time, I would spend the extra money and get a tip that I liked and is of higher quality.

So there.

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well, your muffler is rather big, and that will help make it quieter, but if you look for more performance, it hurts you there. the tip that came on mine is not that big, its 3.5" i actually have people tell me it looks too small because of the large cutout hole in the bumper. all i am saying is, for the price you paid, there are other alternatives, and again, i didnt say you made a bad choice, but you could have gotten a nicer muffler to perform better for cheaper...but i could be wrong.

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And all I was commenting on was the fact I couldn't find any other mufflers for cheaper that I liked.

I had two things I wanted to have in my new muffler:

1) NO ROUND DESIGN! I didn't want a round can design.

2) It *HAD* to be quiet. I had that 3 chamber FlowMaster for almost a year and a half, and I am/was willing to sacrifice *some* performance just to have a quiet ride!

If any performance was lost, it is such a small increment that I can't feel it. Maybe the dyno will show different !?
 

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well, if you couldnt find a place locally that had cheap mufflers, you can pick up an SCC, and find hundreds of ads for mufflers, and i am sure there you could have found one you liked for less than $200. i had a flowmaster myself, and whatever muffler you get after that it will be more quiet, but if you are happy with the dynomax, thats all that matters.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fast91SER:
i had a flowmaster myself, and whatever muffler you get after that it will be more quiet, .

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That's for damn sure.
 
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Oh yeah, FAST91SER just went to your website....


That is a nice ****in' muffler!
 

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Why anyone would get a Flowmaster on a 4 cylinder is beyond me.

I purchased a Pilot universal straight thru muffler for $95. It is 14" long. Is it loud? Not too bad. I can hear my intake over my exhaust after about 4500rpms. Did you spend more money that you needed to? Yes.



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Nobody asked you.

' Sides that Storm45609 didn't you also have a Flowmaster for time? We all have to learn sometime.

Is yours loud? Could be? "Loud" is pretty ****ing relative!

What it came down to is that I didn't want to guess at what would be quieter, I wanted something I've read about on other cars like mine that had a better reputation for being quiet.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Storm88000:
Why anyone would get a Flowmaster on a 4 cylinder is beyond me.

I purchased a Pilot universal straight thru muffler for $95. It is 14" long. Is it loud? Not too bad. I can hear my intake over my exhaust after about 4500rpms. Did you spend more money that you needed to? Yes.

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I plan on doing something similar with a universal muffler (Ultra-flo #17289)and buy a separate tip to be welded on. It might cost a little more.
So why will I do it this way?

Because, damnit, I want it to look a certain way and I'm not happy with anything else.
A 20" Ultra-flo will flow better than any chambered muffler. The flow difference between 14" can and 20" can is not small (1075cfm vs 955cfm) but I don't think our 2.0L will really notice the difference. The specs are on their web page, have you looked through them? They list flow for every muffler.
I can pick a conservative, resonated stainless tip instead of a 4.5" cannon-looking thing.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=44092
 

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The flow difference between 14" can and 20" can is not small (1075cfm vs 955cfm) but I don't think our 2.0L will really notice the difference. </font>
I asked dynomax about this, and they said the 20" 2.5" muffler used to come with a 2.25" perforated core (and this was what was tested), but it now comes with a 2.5" perforated core and flows greater than 1000cfm. I got mine today, and it has a 2.5" core. It looks really big.
BTW, I measured the inside diameter of the stock b-pipe at the flange, it was 1.35".
This measurement was made with a micrometer, so it is accurate.

I was looking at how to mount the muffler. It looks like I can reuse the 2 hangars near the bumper, but I'm not sure about the hangar near the b-pipe. How was yours attached? Did the rear bumper support get in the way at all? How far from the bottom lip of the bumper is the back of the can?


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OK, saw your post. I'm not too sure just how far back the hangers on the B-Pipe are. The can is only a few inches from the bumper lip, but agian I have no idea exact numbers. I work graveyards all this week, but I will try to make time tomarrow to lay down and get some exact measurements. One thing to add, my pipe now bangs on the heat shield right past the resonator. Watch for that.

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I've got to congratulate Serban (Fast91SE-R) on the tip about the 3A Racing muffler. I just bought one for $89 (believe it or not) at -- Auto Zone -- of all places. I just asked them if they could order things, then we eventually discovered that they had one in the back.
Stainless, and a bit quieter (not much) than my previous Borla unit.
My exhaust guy charged me all of $20 to weld it up (it comes with no hangers), and *zoom*, off I went.
Good call, Serban. A highly recommended muffler, if you ask me.
ALSO: This very same muffler is sold by *other* companies (Arospeed is one) for much more money. It seems 3A makes the mufflers at their NY factory, then puts other companies' names on them.
If you look around, you'll notice this is what happens with *alot* of parts, IMHO.

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