JWT C-Series Cams?

Jason92Classic · Apr 13, 2001

What are these? Whose got the info or where can I find it? I saw some posts earlier but some techno-babble would be great. How do they compare with the S-series?

Thanks

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Jason N. -- '92 Black Classic
JWT ECU
JWT Cams
JWT POP Adapted to:
PRI CAI
HS Header
2 1/2" Pipe in CAT's Place
GReddy Cat Back
NT555 Drag Radials on 2 stock 14x5.5s.

redman007 · Apr 13, 2001

All I know, is these are the cams that put you closer to the 200 whp marc.there was a magazine feature talking about them but they werent available to us but now they are but cost over 1000 bucks. s3/s4 don't come close to c2/c3 I've heard. I myself want to know more about them. you also have to change the retainers and springs with these cams also.

Jason92Classic · Apr 13, 2001

need more info! Anyone else heard?

Storm88000 · Apr 13, 2001

Theres a bunch of combos. C1, C2, C3...etc.....hmm actually I don't even know if C1 is available. Maybe its just C2 and C3. Anyways, the C3's are the best but probably have thw worst idle. Comes with valve springs and retainers.

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Jordan White (Stormy)
'98 SE(R) w/ goodies
15.1 @ 90mph at Englishtown, NJ

Matt · Apr 13, 2001

Actually the only ones available currently are the C1's, and C2's. They are pretty impressive however. Most of what I read seems to be speculation but they seem pretty nice. The cost however isn't that nice. The cams themselves run $560. Not too bad. BUT you have to buy the new springs and titanium retainers. Those will set you back $600. Then you have to have the JWT ECU set for them at a cost of $100. (as long as you have the ECU which IS required) As far as the power gains go I have heard the numbers 45-50 peak HP gains mentioned. I don't know if these are the C2's, or the unavailable C3's But the C3's when released yield 10 more hp then the C2's but are a much more aggressive cam with a high rpm power band and rough idle. How do I know all this? I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.. lol seriously though if someone else knows more please do tell.

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96 se-r with a few goodies

RPWSER · Apr 15, 2001

Originally posted by Matt4Nissan:
Actually the only ones available currently are the C1's, and C2's The cost however isn't that nice. The cams themselves run $560. Not too bad. BUT you have to buy the new springs and titanium retainers. Those will set you back $600. Then you have to have the JWT ECU set for them at a cost of $100. (as long as you have the ECU which IS required) As far as the power gains go I have heard the numbers 45-50 peak HP gains mentioned. I don't know if these are the C2's, or the unavailable C3's But the C3's when released yield 10 more hp then the C2's but are a much more aggressive cam with a high rpm power band and rough idle.

i dont know who told you 50hp, gains, but you are dreamin

Theyr good gains, but not that good. The cams/retainers/springs come together and cost like 1200 bucks, and oyu have ot buy an ecu for $595, if you dont already have one. If you have one, just get it reprogrammed for $100. the c3's arent out yet, but you can order them...you just have ot wait for them. What else oyu wanna know?! If rob sees this he may be able to post a dyno or 2

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Ryan Walsh, 1997 200sx SE-R w/ ES mounts, JWT s4's, AEBS 4-1, PR CAI, Greddy cat-back, Sportlines/AGX's, Bridgestone re730's, Stillen GTR grill

Pit_Viper · Apr 15, 2001

Originally posted by RPWSER:
What else oyu wanna know?! If rob sees this he may be able to post a dyno or 2

Rob posted this on the ClubSi board - C3 cams dyno chart, with several different ECU programs:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCal-SERCA/files/C3%20rev%20by%20CAG.gif

He also posted a dyno chart for the S3 cams, for comparison's sake (many of you have probably seen this before):

http://www.se-r.net/engine/jwt_cams/jwtcams.jpg

This is the topic page if you're interested:

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008866-2.html

jacen99SE · Apr 15, 2001

I think the C2/C3 combo did havbe a ~50hp gain, but it was not peak gain. It was after peak horsepower probably close to 7800rpm compared to stock cams.

Jay Hass · Apr 15, 2001

Originally posted by RPWSER:
i dont know who told you 50hp, gains, but you are dreamin

Theyr good gains, but not that good. The cams/retainers/springs come together and cost like 1200 bucks, and oyu have ot buy an ecu for $595, if you dont already have one. If you have one, just get it reprogrammed for $100. the c3's arent out yet, but you can order them...you just have ot wait for them. What else oyu wanna know?! If rob sees this he may be able to post a dyno or 2

C3 cams had over a 50hp gain at 7800rpm. Closer to 60hp if I'm looking at Robs dyno chart right.

Rob had to retard his exhaust cam 2.5* with the lower compression motor to eliminate too much blow down. JWT may end up putting that degree right into the billet. Maybe not.

Rob was on the stock ECU with just the rev limit bumped up and did not have the retainers.

C2's made very good power as well, and are probably the better choice for an everyday driver unless you have very long hairy arms and scabbed knuckles.

Guest · Apr 15, 2001

ok Guys What Kind of cams should I put in my BB DET. Am going to do the 50/MSD injectors,Cobra MAF,? JWT CAMS all the same time. Also What kind of times will I be looking at down the 1/4(I have a 94).I want to be low 13's to high 12's. Thanks

Richie Soliven Representing Split Second Racing in Va beach,VA
SR20DET Power, HKS EVC EZ( boosting at 10 psi), HKS TURBO TIMER, JWT ECU , Greddy catback exhaust, 3 in ATR Race Cat(That is hollowed out), 3 in downpipe,300zxTT fuel pump HKS plugs,Magnecor wires, SSR rims 18x7.5(TRYING TO GET RID OF),relocated battary to the trunk, AGX'S struts and Ground Controls, Stillen kit , Carbon Fiber Hood on the way.

jacen99SE · Apr 15, 2001

if I'm looking at Robs dyno chart right.

Where did you get the dyno charts? Could you post one? Please?

Storm88000 · Apr 16, 2001

50hp? Thats frikking sick-ass. Wicked!

Would that make the C series cams the best bang for the buck? Let's see....doing a little math here.....assuming the C3's cost $1100, and make 50hp, thats exactly $22 per 1 horsepower. The S4 cams are $560 and they make like 16hp, so that is $35 per 1 horsepower. Guess so!

Let's see what else.....hmm a $500 Greddy exhaust makes lets say 4hp. That comes to $125 per 1 hp. That sucks!

Hmm what else....PR or HS CAI. $210 and makes 8hp. That totals $26.25 per 1 horsepower. Hmm this is fun. So far the C cams are still at the top.

Hotshot header....lets say makes an average of 10hp and costs brand new about $420. That equals $42/per hp. Closer...

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Jordan White (Stormy)
'98 SE(R) w/ goodies
15.1 @ 90mph at Englishtown, NJ

Ben · Apr 16, 2001

Let's see, I spent around $1500 for about 80hp, that's $18.75 per hp. With a $5-10 boost controller add maybe 40hp or so to that. That makes the cheap T25 turbo setup the best bang for the buck! C2/C3 cams would be next on the list

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Ben98SentraSE
98 Sentra SE TURBO

Pretty White · Apr 16, 2001

First there was Stillen 1G header then the 2G header then the 4-1.
Then the was the HS Gen1-2-then 3 even a Gen 4 header.
First there was Nismo intake cams. Then the JWT S2-S3 then S4. Now there are C1-C2 and C3.
WHERE DOES IT END???
It almost makes me not want ot buy new parts because next year newer parts seem to just out do the previous parts.

[This message has been edited by Pretty White (edited 04-16-2001).]

nj1266 · Apr 16, 2001

Originally posted by Ben98SentraSE:
Let's see, I spent around $1500 for about 80hp, that's $18.75 per hp. With a $5-10 boost controller add maybe 40hp or so to that. That makes the cheap T25 turbo setup the best bang for the buck! C2/C3 cams would be next on the list

Forced induction does not count. Booooo....Hisssssss

It is easy to extract power from forced induction. It is the easy way out. With NA it is more costly and harder

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Naji Dahi, aka Red Mist
Fast 1998 SE-R Last of the SE-Rs
Slow 1996 G20 (AGXs/G20t springs, K&N drop in filter)

jacen99SE · Apr 17, 2001

WHERE DOES IT END???

I hope it doesn't ever stop.

Storm88000 · Apr 17, 2001

Hehhe. Well I had S3 cams in my classic last year but it's sold. Now I have S4 cams in my 98. So thats the best cams (without spending a ridiculous amount of $$) you can get for now.

I'm a little peeved that I bought my 2nd G3 header though and found out a G4 is out now.

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Jordan White (Stormy)
'98 SE(R) w/ goodies
15.1 @ 90mph at Englishtown, NJ

UK-SRi · Oct 27, 2007

Pit_Viper said:
Rob posted this on the ClubSi board - C3 cams dyno chart, with several different ECU programs:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCal-SERCA/files/C3%20rev%20by%20CAG.gif

http://forums.clubsi.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/008866-2.html

Can someone post me those images, I have signed up to yahoo and applied to the group, but I have waited almost two weeks and the moderator has not replied.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

jagy · Oct 27, 2007

6 years old thread...

jen36 · Oct 27, 2007

pwnd!

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