[Bowlcut]

well all i gota say.....depends. Friend has a 98 Integra Type R with I/H/E, pullies, apex springs, nittos (dont know number) so its pretty cool. but alas he cant make it up his driveway in the snow

. 3/4 mile driveway with 3 switch backs going up a big hill/small mountain

. its snowing here got like 4"s of snow and he had to park it on the last switch back. he called asked if i wanted to go out said yes. drove up past it no problem

made it to the top, ok maybe driver since riding around with him in his truck i really think he cant drive in the snow oh well. atleast i can hang with it on the dry too when i want to.

and the pirelli p4000's arent that bad in snow. need to down the pressure a bit cause they are still running 35psi. they put them up that high to set the bead now its been a month think im going to drop them down a bit. slowly startng to like these tires more. only bad thing they are stiff when cold. almost feels like bias plys when you let them set and get a flat spot, give them about 1 mile they smooth out. nice soft ride but good grip. had the rear end loose on a set of tight turns dont know if its me or the tires going to try again. but think i lifted and the rear end came around oh well.

agay se-r better than type r, and we can get sunroofs

but no power windows(execpt on those pansy 200sx's

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Thats my opinion and I could be wrong

93 classic
Aztec Red, Automatic, POP, STB, AD22VF's, Pirelli P4000's

 

[Storm88000]

Man I had the most fun in the snow today. I had last day of exams at school and got to drive around in it, fresh and new. My Pirellis suck pretty much in the snow.......but man ABS is crazy though! I think Nissan made it supersensitive in my car (I do know its rare to have it BTW) but it kicks in everytime i even tap the brakes.

ABS definately stops the car better but it feels like I have automatic brakes

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Jordan
1998 Sentra SE -
Hotshot G3 Header, Hotshot CAI, JWT s4 Cams, Timing @ 19, KYB AGXs, Eibach Sportlines, Courtesy F&R STB's, ES Mounts, MOMO Shifter, Nis-Knacks chrome projector headlights, 205/50/ Pirelli P700Z's

15.454 @ 88mph at Englishtown, NJ - stock cams

 

[wes]

Yes the ITR is a difficult car to improve on! My close friend used to have an ITR that was outfitted with all Mugen parts (ecu,header, exhaust, valve springs, thermostat, head gasket) and AEM (cam gears, and cai) along with a King motorsports FPR and King installed everything and tuned the car. He was running low to mid 14's all day long. But damn for $6,000 that is not a ton of improvement. Just goes to show how tuned that car is from the factory. BTW his suspension was stock and it rocked! ALways did really well at autocross events although his Advan tires were better suited to road course driving! I loved driving that car, it was a blast to drive. I just wish that I could directly compare it to a similarly modified SE-R. Then I could for sure comment on which I feel is better. I know I would take the Stock ITR suspension over the stock se-r suspension, but the fat power band of the SR20 is very appealing! Oh well too bad my friend sold the ITR and now is the lcky owner of a S2000, yeah I know, he's a real dick!

late,
wes

www.wes.nissanpower.com

[This message has been edited by wes (edited 12-20-2000).]

 

[Ben]

Are you supposed to lower your tire pressure for the snow? Maybe I should try that on my car until the Blizzaks come in so I can drive around town without fear for my life?

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Ben98SentraSE
98 Sentra SE TURBO

 

[97 Black SER]

Just turn down the boost Ben.

Um to the guy with the Type R. He runs mid to low 14's with 6 grand of mods in the car. I wouldn't say thats all that good, in fact thats pretty bad in my opinion. Turbo Dsm's run 14's stock with no mods, and I'm sure a lot of people on the board run better than 14 with much less than 6 grand in modifications. Just my .02


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Ryan 97 Black SER Stock for now. Exhaust going on on January 5th. Hotshot header and Unorthodox Racing pulleys soon to follow.

 

[Guest]

an R will do low 14s with less cash than 6K.But that car isnt meant to be messed with.It is almost a perfectly balanced car straight out the showroom door.

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[Bowlcut]

Well the R is great factory. he bought it this way. he was wanting to get rid of his 95 Maxima SE (Said it had too many miles, 80k? WTF) but i found it and he bought it for 19k with little less than 30k on the clock. wish it did have the stock suspension he does too. its too low, while it does hold a corner with less body roll than a stock one i dont like it that much. too much to worrie about, but its not bouncy which i was suprised. the intake is about the best mod for them, the stock is a little conjested. but R owners realise they dont get as big of a jump as Si and GSR's with mods. The Comptech header is great it helps the midrange torque. Honestly off VTEC it feels about as strong as a sr20de, almost. short shifting at 5000(before vtec 5500) it scoots down the road. but it doesnt put you in the back of your seat like the torque of the sr20de. you just go, look down and your doing 60 QUICK, and not noticing it. atleast in my car you get some push in the back. as for the exhaust, they suck on the R's you get nothing but a drone. Everyone knows this, but the owner before him put the tanbae g medalon exhaust on it. we are thinking about looking at the stock muffler see if it will bolt up to the b-pipe since he has the stock exhaust.

as for handling differences, i have tons of body roll. stock suspension bout to give out. think im going to start saving for springs/shocks. ive pushed both cars though a set of 3 hard back to back to back corners. my typical testing road. couple tight s's and a couple higher speed turns. the R was SQUIRRLELY. it really was loose you can feel how netural it was. but my se-r only felt loose in one corner. where as the R every time i got on it, it just slid everywhere could be the nitto tires that are bout worn out.

with my only power mod of intake, well and 15degrees timing, i can hang with him. we occasionaly face off but nothing major. i stay with him till like 60 where the 195hp stock comes in to breathing room. only done this a couple times since i dont like street racing and bitch to him about doing it. if you are wanting to go fast in the R you have to sorta make an effort, not as much as an Si tho. drop out of vtec and it feels like a ton of bricks. but switch over isnt a kick in the pants, just in the ear drums. other than crusing at 70mph at 4500rmps i would get one in a heart beat.

 

[brian]

6 grand on an se-r can buy you a f-max kit, giving you 12s all day long.......

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98 se-r w/ p/r cai, stillen header, courtesy exhaust, JUN flywheel, ACT clutch, NOS nitrous kit, eibach springs, kyb struts, st sways, cusco camber plates, f/r strut braces, lotsa bushings, and a bunch of other crap not really worth mentioning

 

[skyliner]

Yes the Type R is a tight package from the factory , but for 25k it ought to be , I think it is a better looking car than my classic but if I had the much money to spend I probably have the baddest classic SE-R around , I just don't like Honda engines I think they fool people by advertising (NEW CIVIC Si 160HP) wow yeah at like redline, meanwhile my SR20 is banging it. I like the torque that my sr20 it makes it "feel" faster , Even the S2000 with 245 just dont "feel" fast , drive what ya want.

 

[97 Black SER]

Yep, I agree brian.

 

[redman007]

woah! S 2000 ! don't mess with, can't compare stock sr20de with s2000. won't happen! SORRY FELLAS I've felt the pain ! If I would ever own a Honduh, IT would be an S 2000! sorry but the truth hurts! Race 1 then talk! P.S. I aint stock and can race dammn good!

 

[brian]

get the juice, and get them to feel the pain. they are fast though. I have played around with one, and, well, it beat me, but hey, nobody's perfect.

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98 se-r w/ p/r cai, stillen header, courtesy exhaust, JUN flywheel, ACT clutch, NOS nitrous kit, eibach springs, kyb struts, st sways, cusco camber plates, f/r strut braces, lotsa bushings, and a bunch of other crap not really worth mentioning

 

[Scarpa]

How well does the type-R react to mods? I thought that was a pretty tight package from the factory.. I would guess some things like the springs would mess up the car more than help.

 

[wes]

LOL sometimes I wonder if some of you read all the posts

Anyway I was saying that the Type R is a great package stock and him spending $6K in mods (with about $1200 of that in labor)and only triming off a few tenths in the 1/4 is evidence of that! But I will say that I killed many a car in that ITR, the low 14's were not an an accurate gauge of it's speed. With the Mugen ecu that car had major balls at 4000 RPM's and pulled like mad all the way to red-line. He was spanking JRSC ITR's with that car. And no, he isn't going to mess with the S2K. He bought it to autocross and road race stock! And yes I did say that the fat power band of the SR20 was it's strong point! hat is why I said that I wish I could have driven a equally prepped SE-R just for shits and grins. But oh well,I try to appreciate all cars. I agree that the SI is overrated as are other Hondas(mainly by ignorant owners) but they are good cars with promising potential, just like the SE-R. Damn I am modding a GA16 adn I wish I had the potential of an SI. Most would argue thta my car running a 16.1 after spending about $1,500 would be a waste. But I am happy with it, and I know that it will be running high to mid 15's when I get it to the track in the spring. To each his own I guess!

late,
wes

www.wes.nissanpower.com

[This message has been edited by wes (edited 12-21-2000).]

 

[gpser96]

I played with an S2000, he didn't like me until about 100 or so then he started creeeeeeepin' away from me...We stopped ahead at a light and he is making dog panting faces at me and grinning...rolls down his window and just says.."damn...!!"

i second the vote...they have great top ends...they don't sound as good as type R's i have raced though.

Mr S2000

 

[gpser96]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gpser96:
I played with an S2000, he didn't like me until about 100 or so then he started creeeeeeepin' away from me...We stopped ahead at a light and he is making dog panting faces at me and grinning...rolls down his window and just says.."damn...!!"

i second the vote...they have great top ends...they don't sound as good as type R's i have raced though. </font>

 

[gpser96]

ooops sorry about the wacky posts...i shouldn't drink and type.!!

 

[Bowlcut]

Well i agree wes. personaly if i had the money i would buy a type r. only because there is **** else out there in the sport compact world. i dont like big cars, dont say they can handle well cause i know they can, i just like the tossability and fun you get from something small. while i would also buy a WS6 or a Z06 they arent a total fun car. yea they haul balls and even kick ass handling i wouldnt really say they have the fun of say a type r. two totaly differnt types of fun, both i wish i could have

. but i would only have a 98 R cause i like the white better than the ricer yellow and black cars arent my thing. the R is NOT a drag racer. susposaly there is a guy with a 12 sec all motor R but thats not the car. the car is a handling car. so what you end up having to say "ill beat you in the twisties" i dont care. its quick but its not going to beat a simmilary modded frebird or others maybe se-r's in the 1320. but by god it tears up the pavement in the corners. no it doesnt respond as well to mods but it doesnt mind. not like putting something on there will hurt it, like the AEM brakes on a Si. Josh's R has a 14.5 or so at Bristol drag strip under its belt(by previous owner). hell first time josh ever went dragging he didnt know what he was doing. he was totaly unprepaird, left EVERYTHING even golf clubs in the car, didnt lower his tire pressure, and hell left off idel. he was unprepared left the lights at idle and still got a 15.5. need to seee his time slip if he still has it. im impressed with the car. yes i would turn down a se-r for one(harricy isnt it). but there are plenty of cars i would do that with also.

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Thats my opinion and I could be wrong

93 classic
Aztec Red, Automatic, POP, STB, OEC battery tie down, AD22VF's, Pirelli P4000's

 

[Guest]

Supposedly last weekend at Speedworld out here in arizona, some guy ran a 19 and 17 in his Type R. I was there but never actually saw him run, some other guys said it was true. If it is true, its friggin pathetic. The Type R that I did see run, ran a 15.9. Why are these people(or daddy) spending the money on these sweet cars but can't figure out how to drive the damn thing. All you have to do basically is step on the gas and shift. I know I'm far from a good drag car driver as of now, but I'm not that bad.

[This message has been edited by twentyfivecharacters (edited 12-21-2000).]

 

[Bowlcut]

i guess you could get that low of a number if you were stock, had someone with you, slick ass tires, and launched off of idle, then missed a shift or two. who knows. the R isnt a drag car anyway. but **** si's arent either but people do it. oh well