[Guest]

The saga continues. I have had a service engine soon light ever since I put my new Hotshot header on. I had to re-tap the O2 sensor, I thought that would fix it. It didn't. I brought it to the dealer, and he ran the codes. He said it was EGR, and that there wasn't enough flow through the EGR tube to open the valve up all the way. So, I checked my EGR fitting, and it was on all the way (not cross threaded or anything.) So, the car idles rough, and I can't seem to fix it.

Any ideas?

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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[jacen99SE]

First, did you re-tighten the EGR tube in the REAR?
That's the easy thing to check.
Also, just try removing the EGR tube and cleaning it.

WHile you have it removed, try and look into the EGR port on the header. Is it blocked by anyting?

 

[jacen99SE]

What is the actual code?
I'll look it up in my FSM

 

[Guest]

No, I didn't take the whole tube off. How do you get at it? It is so far back there!

I don't know the actual code. How cand I check the codes myself? (I don't have an FSM either

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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[jacen99SE]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">How cand I check the codes myself?</font>

1. Remove the ecu from behind the radio. On the back there is a hole covered by a clear piece of plastic. Remove the plastic.

2. Put the key in the ignition and turn it to ON but do not start the car.

3. Use a regular screwdriver bit to turn the thing on the back of the ecu. Turn it until it stops, don't force it. Wait 5 seconds, then turn it back.

4. Record the codes (flashes of the check engine light)

Repeat 3 to clear the code.

Post it and we can tell you what it means.

 

[Guest]

Cool, thanks! I will try that as soon as I can!

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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[Guest]

Ok, just ran the codes on my car here is what I got:

5 long blinks,
14 short ones

Anyonw w/FSM please let me know what this means!!

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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[Guest]

oK, I am answering my own question, but 0514 is EGR system. (Like I thought) So now what? Here is what I have done so far:
1) Brought car to dealer, had codes run. (They said EGR)
2) Loosend header, made sure EGR was on completley.
3) Run Codes to verify EGR system is not functioning correctly.
4) Looked for leak around EGR fitting, and have found no leaks.

Now what? The car is a '99, so the thing shouldn't need cleaning. Should I call Hotshot again and tell them that the header isn't working right? What to do, what to do! :O



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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[jacen99SE]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">WHile you have it removed, try and look into the EGR port on the header. Is it blocked by anyting? </font>

Did you do this step?

I'll look through the FSM tonight for there recommendations to check based on the code you gave.

 

[jacen99SE]

The FSM says:
EGR flow is detected under conditon that does not call for EGR
Check Items:
EGRC-solenoid valve
EGR valve leaking or stuck open
EGR temperature sensor
EGRC-BPT valve

Did the dealer check all these?
If you want to check them , I can scan the pages and email them to you.

 

[Guest]

The mechanic said that the valve was stuck open (I believe) and that it wasn't heating up enough to open it up. Hey, if you could e-mail it to me, that would be great!

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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[jacen99SE]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The mechanic said that the valve was stuck open</font>

Then they should repair or replace it.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">that it wasn't heating up enough to open it up</font>

That contradicts what you said above.
If so, they should test the EGR temperature sensor.

I'll try and scan the pages tomorrow.

 

[Guest]

Maybe I misunderstood what he was saying. Regardless, he said that replacing the EGR would be really expensive, and that HE wasn't responsible if the thing didn't work properly. He rambled on about how "you voided the warranty on that engine because you tampered with the emission controls." and how I shouldn't "come to him" if the thing doesn't still work. He was kind of a jerk to me.

Anyways, how does the EGR work? Does the flow from the EGR on the header heat up a temp sensor that opens the EGR selinod, thus opening the EGR valve? If not, could you explain so I know what I am talking about if I have to go to the dumbass dealer again?

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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html

 

[jacen99SE]

patience, young Skywalker. I will send you the FSM pages today. How much room do you have in your email account? The pages are scanned as pictures so they are kinda big.

It would be easier for me to fax them. Do you have access to a fax? Or are you near a kinko's I could fax them to? Kinko's will charge you, but an EGR valve is over $100 I think.

 

[jacen99SE]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">No, I didn't take the whole tube off. How do you get at it? It is so far back there! </font>

Use two extensions and a swivel adapter on a socket. It helps to have a friend hold a flashlight.

 

[jacen99SE]

you have mail.

 

[Guest]

Cool, thanks! I will look through them and see what's up.



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1999 SE Limited: JWT POP, NGK Wires, OBX Muffler 2.25" exhaust, Hotshot header, Eibach Sportlines, KYB AGX, 17 deg. timing
http://post.uwstout.edu/l/lilienthala/car.html