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I just blew a goodyear eagle gt-hr I think it was, dont quote me on which eagle it was. Anyway, I really really like these tires and upon inspection I have realized that i was running 195/50 instead of 195/55 or 205/50 on SE-R Wheels. I'm going to only get two new tires now, not all 4.. I'm looking for a good all weather high performance tire. I'm autocrossing this saturday, so I need to get this done quickly. I need a tire that has minimal tread wear, excellent dry and wet traction (not concerned about snow), preferably not too noisey (not that important though) and is made in a 205/50/15. Any suggestions? Right now I'm looking at dunlop sp sport 5000s and potenza S-03 pole positions. I would really like to get the GT-HR's again, but we cant get them soon enough so I'm willing to comprimise.

These tires will be driven on daily and will be AutoX'd
 

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The big questions that need to be answered first are #1. Will the tires be used in the snow? #2. How much do you want to spend per tire?
 

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When I wrote this last night I wasnt thinking of using these just as summer tires, but that has changed... Yes, I will be using these in the snow, so I want some snow traction also (nevermind the pole positions then :p). And per tire, I think that $110-120 per is the maximum that I'm looking to spend
 

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Firestone Indy 500 Firehawks. I used these at 110+ and also in the snow the best tire I've ever used and not too expensive. Around 200-250.
 

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IMHO, there is no such thing as a good "all-season" tire. These will be only mediocre in all conditions: dry, wet and snow. As an example, my wife's Outback runs on Michelin all-seasons. My NX does better in the snow with true snow tires (Bridgestone Blizzaks) even though her car is AWD.

Since you'll be auto-xing, I can't imagine going with an all-season tire. Get yourself a good set of 3-season tires (my Yoko Parada Spec-2's handle the rain better than all-season tires) and have a second set of tires just for the snow. Go a step further and mount the snow tires onto cheap steel wheels (maybe next to nothing at a junk yard). You can get the snow tires for like $50-60 each and you'll go through the snow like nobody's business. Having them on their own rims will also save you paying to swap tires every season onto the same rims.

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This would be interesting, I'm not aware of a tire out there that gives great wet and dry traction and is usable(safe) in the snow.

Hit up tirerack.com and look at some of the different Potenza lines besides the S-03's.

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I'm looking for tires with similar requirements. I thought about the snow tires thing, but I have no place to store the winter tires (or wheels and tires), so I came up with the following:

Falken Ziex ZE-512 (plus they come in 215/40/16)
Toyo Proxes 4

But I haven't seen too much data or reviews on these two tires.
 

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The Toyos might be better at dry handling, but I don't think either will be entirely safe in the snow.

Do you have a garage? I bought metal posts/hanger that stick out of the wall. These are mounted close to the ceiling and I put my snow tires on them when not in use (and my summer tires when the snow tires are in use). They are out of the way and easily accessible.

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I'm looking for tires with similar requirements. I thought about the snow tires thing, but I have no place to store the winter tires (or wheels and tires), so I came up with the following:

Falken Ziex ZE-512 (plus they come in 215/40/16)
Toyo Proxes 4

But I haven't seen too much data or reviews on these two tires.
 

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The ZE-512s are great in the snow. My mom had them in 215/55-16 on her old I30t through 2 Maine winters, and she thought they were the best all-seasons in snow she'd ever had. Quite a bit noisier than her stock toyos though.
 

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no garage, no basement, just closet space, which is already filled up with lots of extra parts much to my wife's dismay. I think I might try out the falkens...
 

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i just bought 2 new proxes t1-s, well see how they do, you could always try some falken azenis, but they'd wear pretty fast and are quite loud.
 

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Azenis? Are you insane? I have azenis on my car, and I don't dare to even move it if there's snow or ice on the road. Definitely not all season capable. Although they're fantastic in the dry, and I haven't had any hydroplaning issues in the wet.

For me though, I could never go back to an all season tire. I'd get some Azenis and a cheap snow tire for the winter (that's what I plan to do when I'm in Maine next winter). Get a couple pieces of plexiglass and you have a fine pair of bedside tables, just swap em out when the seasons change :).
 

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my dad just wanted me to have all season tires (I have no idea why, we have an explorer that I use in the snow...) for some reason, and since he is shelling out the majority of the money for these tires, I'm not gonna argue.
 

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I found the best prices on Azenis and the 512's at onlinetires.com or if you have a discount code, driverfx.com (which has free shipping too)
 

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Unfortunatly DriverFX charges $10 per tire to ship. Another good source for good Azenis prices is edgeracing.com.

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I found the best prices on Azenis and the 512's at onlinetires.com or if you have a discount code, driverfx.com (which has free shipping too)
 

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meh, my dad ordered me a pair of Dunlop SP sport 5000s today, goin on tomorrow. Just in time for autox :D
 

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There was a Car and Driver review on two sets of tires. I remember one of the sets was the Toyo Proxes 4, I think. And, I think the other was Kuhmo something... Either way, the Kuhmos were all-season that went down to 40 aspect ratio... I think. They said that these tires were unlike any other all-season tire and gave a lot of summer tires a run for their money. If you guys are still interested I'll post it up probably next week when I go back to my dad's. I think that magazine is still sitting in the bathroom. :D
 
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